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Сообщение от Цитата:

И вашу мать, пацаны, до чего же приятно, когда ты с ними соглашаешься и понимаешь о чем они толкуют.

Сообщение от Цитата:

***** Hand History for Game 3949384806 *****
15/30 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 21982480) - Tue Apr 11 17:05:35 EDT 2006
Table Speed Starting Price (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 4: Indyguy28 (1515)
Seat 5: puns210 (1930)
Seat 6: schewe (3810)
Seat 7: lolyddobler (5545)
Seat 8: monkeebizz (2285)
Seat 9: donrue (2730)
Seat 10: tferguson11 (2185)
puns210 posts small blind (200)
schewe posts big blind (400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Indyguy28 [ Kh, Qh ]
lolyddobler raises (800) to 800
monkeebizz folds.
donrue folds.
tferguson11 folds.
<< Irie says: This is a very easy push for me. I think folding would be a big mistake. UTG has raised more than anybody at the table, and he is the big stack. He will raise liberally and there are 1400 chips in the middle.
<< Strassa says: Hmm. you have 4bb and are getting decent overlay. This hand does pretty well in this spot, and this player seems kinda loose. I'm rusty with SNG's and such but I think this spot is close. If the table was very tight and I'd have the chance to open push with any 2 cards, I think that'd be a better spot, but again I'm not sure.
Indyguy28 folds.
<< Newt says: Good fold. Many players see KQs with 4bb and can’t wait to move all in without stopping and assigning hand ranges. Most players miniraising UTG here will have KQs crushed making this a clear fold.
<< Raptor says: This one can be quite close IMO. Because he’s the big stack he’s likely raising a rather large range, plus you can get the dead 600 from the blinds in there a ton of times. He’s obviously not folding, but its prolly +EV against most big stack ranges there.
<< tigerite says: I think this is a good fold, his range has to be pretty loose here to justify a push. (You have basically zero FE, too)
<< curtains says: Folding is correct IMO.
puns210 folds.
schewe folds.

Сообщение от Цитата:

***** Hand History for Game 3949413158 *****
15/30 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 21982480) - Tue Apr 11 17:09:21 EDT 2006
Table Speed Starting Price (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 4: Indyguy28 (2715)
Seat 5: puns210 (1130)
Seat 6: schewe (4995)
Seat 7: lolyddobler (6745)
Seat 8: monkeebizz (1685)
Seat 9: donrue (2730)
lolyddobler posts small blind (200)
monkeebizz posts big blind (400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Indyguy28 [ 6d, 6c ]
donrue calls (400)
<< Indy’s thought process: This guy donrue is a loose goose and I’ve seen him limping in before like this. I think he’s got 2 big cards like KQs or something and the overlay is great. He may not even call if I push. I’m going to have to win a hand like this if I want to cash. Let’s let it rip.
<< Irie says: I push because this player has limped into most pots so his limp is not likely to be a hand... so I just treat it as if I am first to act with an even bigger pot. I would open push this hand, so I will push here too.
Indyguy28 raises (2715) to 2715
Indyguy28 is all-In.
<< tigerite says: WTF are you doing here? This is horrendous, don’t do it. You have a pair of 6’s and a limper UTG, and pusing UTG+1 behind him with like 7BB. Bad poker.
<< Newt says: This hand is tough because you can’t assign hand ranges to UTG very well since his preflop limp is illogical and donkish. In general though, unless I have a solid read on UTG I’m not expecting to take the pot down without a showdown if I push and 66 doesn’t have quite enough showdown strength for me to push here. Pushing isn’t that bad but I don’t feel that you have enough FE here or that 66 stacks up well enough against his hand range for this to be a very profitable push.
<< Strassa says: I play same way, pretty sure its not close.
<< Raptor says: hrmmmm.. this one is sketchy.. i might give too much credit to ppl that limp in for 15% of their stacks utg in spots like this.. buuuut.. meh. i fold here. play results tho right? SHIP IT.
<< curtains says: I basically always fold in these spots. The combination of the limper calling and/or someone having a big hand behind you makes this a fold. At the $22s a limp UTG doesn't mean quite so much, but I would still definitely fold here. With a hand like 66 and a halfway comfortable stack, its almost always best to put your chips in when no one else has acted.

Сообщение от diatty писал чт, 20 апреля 2006 11:33

to RHnd
насчет тайтовости не согласен,Hero играл тайтово,а в комментах на баббле только и было..fold?? push-raise!!..

Сообщение от RHnd писал ср, 19 апреля 2006 19:26

Ну не знаю... играя 4 стола я бы выкинул J9s в первой руке нафиг.

Сообщение от pm_asm писал чт, 20 апреля 2006 19:43

еще кто-нибудь считает слоуплей на готовом флеше уместным поступком??? стоило ли так играть? соображения???

Сообщение от SnG_player писал чт, 20 апреля 2006 13:18

Без базара, для меня это тоже автофолд.